SYMMES Part 2 of 2

SYMMES   Part 2 of 2

Generations marked (1) (2) etc. -- the oldest are (1) –just applies to this page.  Most lists I’ve seen only count the male line.  In order to do direct decent, this list uses both male and female.

(6) Rev TIMOTHY SYMMES 1714 – 1756 (my 5^th great grandfather)

Spouses & Children

Mary Cleves -SYMMES 1717 – 1781

(7) John Cleves Symmes 1742 – 1814 (SEE HISTORICAL NOTES BELOW) (my 4^th great grand uncle)

(1760 m Anna Tuthill 1741-1781)

                                                            Children: (8) Maria Symmes – (8) Anna Tuthill Symmes – (8) Joseph Symmes)

(7) Timothy Symmes (Judge) 1744 – 1797 (my 4^th great grandfather) (see above)

(7) William SYMMES 1746 – 1748 2 yo Child

(7) William Symmes 1746 – 1825 (1759 m Anna Gee )

(7) Anna Tuthill Symmes 1775 – 1864 (my 4^th great grand aunt) (1795 m. William Henry Harrison-President of the United States)

Lydia Eunice Cogswell –POTTER 1732 – 1788  (2^nd husband Richard Potter. Children Lydia Potter – Jonathan Potter)

(7) Capt Ebenezer Symmes  1754-1830 (m Abigail Doe. Child: Sarah Sally Symmes)

TIMELINE

Birth 1714 27 May  Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA 

Marriage to Mary Cleves 1741 17 Sep — Age: 27  Long Island City, Queens, New York, United States 

Marriage to Lydia Eunice Cogswell 1750 — Age: 36 Suffolk Co, Long Island, NY 

Death 1756 6 Apr — Age: 41

FIND A GRAVE NOTES

Birth: 1715 Death: 1756 Family links: Parents: Timothy Symmes (1683 - 1765) Spouse: Mary Cleves Symmes (1746 - 1746) Children: John Cleves Symmes (1742 - 1814)* Timothy Symmes (1744 - 1797)* Timothy Symmes (1744 - 1797)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Unknown Created by: P Fazzini Record added: Oct 06, 2009 Find A Grave Memorial# 42759247

Source Information

• Ancestry Family Trees
• Family Data Collection - Individual Records
• U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

Historical Notes (7) John Cleves Symmes  1742-1814  (my 4^th great grand uncle)

John Cleves Symmes (July 21st, 1742–February 26, 1814^[1]) was a delegate to the Continental Congress from New Jersey, and later a pioneer in the Northwest Territory. He was also the father-in-law of President William Henry Harrison. He was the son of the Rev. Timothy Symmes (1715–1756) and Mary Cleves (died c. 1746) of Suffolk County, New York on Long Island. John was born in Riverhead, New York on July 21, 1742.

Symmes was educated as a lawyer and married Anna Tuthill (1741–1776) at Mattituck, New York on October 30, 1760. They had two children; Maria (born April 23, 1765) and Mary (born August 30, 1767) at Mattituck before moving to New Jersey sometime around 1770. Another daughter Anna Tuthill Symmes was born in 1775 at Flatbrookville, Walpack Township, Sussex County, New Jersey before his wife died in 1776.

Symmes supported the revolution, becoming chairman of the Sussex County, New Jersey Committee of Safety in 1774. When the Revolutionary war began in earnest, he served as Colonel of the 3rd Regiment of the Sussex County militia from 1777 to 1780. The unit was called into service with the Continental Army on several actions.

Symmes served on the New Jersey Supreme Court in 1777 and 1778. Then, in 1778, Governor William Livingston appointed him to the State Council (now the New Jersey Senate). He was a frequent visitor to the Governor both in Elizabethtown and in Parsippany. In 1779, John married Livingston's daughter, Susannah. Besides being the governor's daughter, she was John Jay's sister-in-law.

Symmes represented New Jersey in the Continental Congress (1785–1786), then, in 1788, moved to the west, settling in what later became North Bend, Ohio. He served as a judge of the Territorial Court from 1788 until Ohio became a state in 1803. He also pursued an active career as a land developer and seller. He died on February 26, 1814 at Cincinnati, Ohio, and is buried at North Bend.

Land development

Symmes bought 311,682 acres from the Congress in 1788. President George Washington signed the patent on October 30, 1794 conveying to Symmes 248,250 acres (1,005 km²) plus a surveying township of 23,040 acres (93 km²), in trust, for an academy. This land was known as the Symmes Purchase, and was the cause of considerable controversy in his lifetime and after. The purchase price was $225,000, and was paid in notes issued by the Congress to raise money during the war. There is no doubt that a considerable part of this amount came from Symmes in the first place as he lent most of his own money to the revolution.

There were other investors who served as partners in the transaction. There is also no doubt that some of these notes were purchased from other holders, probably at a discount. This was before the rampant speculation in these notes that happened a few years later, but is still questionable.

There were also disputes about the actual boundaries of the purchase and the quality of surveying and validity of titles. In the last years of his life, he spent a great deal of time in court, defending himself from claims.

Symmes' nephew and namesake John Cleves Symmes, Jr. fought in the War of 1812 and is best known for his Hollow Earth Theory.

(5) TIMOTHY SYMMES 1683 – 1765   (my 6^th great grandfather)

Spouse & Children

Elizabeth Rose Collamore -ROSE 1679 – 1758

(6) Hannah Symmes  1712 –  1712 Died in Childhood

(6) Timothy Symmes (Rev)  1714 – 1756  (see above)

(6) Anthony Symmes  1716 – 0

Timeline

Birth 1683  Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA 

Marriage to Elizabeth Collamore -ROSE-1710 31 Jul — Age: 27

Death 1765 6 Apr — Age: 82

SOURCE INFORMATION

• Ancestry Family Trees
• Massachusetts, Marriages, 1633-1850
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
• U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

(4) Capt William Symmes 1627-1691 (my 7^th great grandfather)

Birth 10 Jan 1627 in 1656730, Bedfordshire, England

Death 22 Sep 1691 in Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States

(3) Rev Zechariah or Zachariah Symmes 1599-1670 (my 8^th great grantfather)

There is extensive information on Zachariah, William & William Symmes  which includes historical information on the times.  I can’t record it all – I can’t even get the patience together to read it all.

Birth 5 Apr 1599 in Canterbury, Kent, England

Death Jan. 28, 1670

Spouse & Children

Sarah Baker 1604 – 1673

(4) Mary Symmes 1625 – 1651

(4) William Symmes (Capt) 1627 – 1691  (see above)

(4) Elizabeth Symmes 1630 – 0

(4) Huldah Symmes 1631 – 0

(4) Hannah Symmes 1632 – 0

(4) Rebecca Symmes 1633 – 1681

(4) Ruth Symmes 1635 – 0

(4) Zechariah (Rev) Symmes 1637 – 1707

(4) Timothy Symmes 1640 – 1641  1 yo Died in Childhood

(4) Deborah Symmes 1642 – 1716

There is possibly another spouse Mehitable Palmer -DALTON-SYMMES 1628 – 1695 but the information is iffy.

Timeline

Birth 1599 5 Apr  Canterbury, Kent, England 

Entered CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY 1617 25 Apr — Age: 18

Adm. pens. at EMMANUEL, Apr. 25, 1617. Doubtless s. of William (1577). B. at Canterbury, Apr. 5, 1599. Matric. 1617; B.A. 1620-1; M.A. 1624. Lecturer at St Antholin's, London, 1621-5, resigned owing to persecution in the Bishops' Courts. R. of Dunstable, 1

Graduation 1620 — Age: 21  Emmanuel College, Cambridge University 

Residence 1621 -1625 — Age: 22  London, Middlesex, England 

Marriage to Sarah Baker 1622 13 Aug — Age: 23  Saint Savior, Southwark, Surrey England 

Occupation 1625 -1633 — Age: 26 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England  RECTOR

Departure 1634 1 Aug — Age: 35  Canterbury, Kent or Dunstable England  Aboard the Griffin

Arrival 1634 18 Sep — Age: 35  Boston aboard THE GRIFFIN 

England Aug 1, 1634 arriving in September 18, 1634, at Boston with about one hundred passengers and cattle for the plantations. Symmes Zachariah Rev. (From Canterbury, Kent or Dunstable, bound for Charlestown. Ref: Savage Gen Dict. 36 pg 1 & 77)

Ordination 1634 22 Dec — Age: 35  Charlestown, Massachusetts Bay Colony 

Residence 1641 — Age: 42  Woburn, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony 

Death 1670 28 Jan — Age: 70

Passenger List for the Griffin 1634 ________________________________________ GRIFFIN: This ship arrived at Boston September (18), with about one hundred passengers and cattle for the plantations. ……..Rev. ZACHARIAH SYMMES of Canterbury, county Kent (settled in) Charlestown Mrs. Sarah Symmes William Symmes Mary Symmes Elizabeth Symmes Huldah Symmes Hannah Symmes Rebecca Symmes

(2) Rev William Symmes 1570-1627 (my 9^th great grandfather)

Timeline

Birth 1570  Sandwich, Kent, England 

Ordination 1588 — Age: 18

Death 1627 17 May — Age: 57  Harlington, England 

(1) William Symmes 1500-1525 (my 10^th great grandfather)

Born: 1500 Canterbury, England                This is the only information that I haveon him. 

`                       It is the end of the line on my records.

The SYMMES Part 1 OF 2

 I picked the Symmes line because it was short and I'd just make it a small post but in cleaning it up, I found I had a lot more that just wasn't connected.  It's now in two part:

SYMMES   Part I of 2

Generations marked (1) (2) etc. -- the oldest are (1) –just applies to this page.  Most lists I’ve seen only count the male line.  In order to do direct decent, this list uses both male and female.

Before the SYMMES shown below:

(12) Herbert Blanchard Leadbeater 1917-1998 (my father)

(11) Helen Muriel Blanchard-Leadbeater 1891-1989 (my grandmother)

(10) Harriett Louise Skinner-Blanchard-Batcheldor-1868-1956 (my great grandmother)

(9) RACHEL A or ANNA R SYMMES 1832 -0 (my 2^nd great grandmother)

Spouse & Children

Henry Bates Skinner 1830 – 1892  

(10) Henry Colburn Skinner 1854 – 1900 (1881 m Mary Grant)

                    Children (11) Gurdon Grant Skinner –(11) Marian Skinner)

(10) Anna B. Skinner 1855 – 0

(10) Edward L. Skinner 1860 – 0

(10) Sarah A. Skinner 1862 – 0

(10) Harriet L Skinner 1868 – 1956 (see above)

TIMELINE

Birth 1832  Massachusetts 

Residence 1850 — Age: 18  Boston Ward 10, Suffolk, Massachusetts 

INCLUDES Reny Symmes 52-1798 Sarah Presley 24 - 1826 Moses E Presley DRIVER 28-1822 Joseph E Presley 1-1849 William Symmes CLERK 22-1828 Thomas Symmes CLERK 21-1829 Ann Symmes 18-1832 Joseph P B Symmes 16-1834 Cornelius Reian 15-1835

Marriage to Henry Bates Skinner 1853 16 Aug — Age: 21 

Residence 1880 — Age: 48  Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States 

INCLUDES Elias Skinner Head 74-1806 Sarah Skinner Wife 72-1808 Henry Skinner Son 50-1853 Anna Skinner D-in-Law 48-1855 Henry B. Skinner GSon 27-1853 Anna B. Skinner GDaughter 25-1855 Edward L. Skinner GSon 20-1860 Sarah A. Skinner Gdaughter

SOURCES

• 1850 United States Federal Census
• 1880 United States Federal Census
• Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988

(8) PEYTON SHORT SYMMES 1793-1861 (my 3^rd great grandfather)

(aka Payton)

Spouse & Children

Hannah B Close 0 – 1850

(9) Allen Cleves Symmes 0-0

(9) Daniel Cleves Symmes 0-0

(9) Ethan Allen Symmes 0-0

(9) Harriet Louise Symmes 0 – 1852

(9) William Symmes 1820 – 1820  1 yo Died in Childhood

(9) Mary Susan Symmes 1822 –  0. (1847 m Charles L Colburn)

                    Children: (10) Charles Colburn –(10) James Lupton Colburn – (10) Mary Giddon Colburn

(9) Elizabeth Symmes 1825 –  0 (abt 1845 m. Langdon H Haven

                    Children: (10) Ethan Allen Haven – (10) Henry Langdon Haven

(9) Rachel Anna Symmes 1832 –  0 (see above)

(9) Henry Edward Symmes 1835 – 1864

Timeline

Birth  1793   Sussex, New Jersey, USA 

Residence  1788 -1912   Hamilton, Ohio, USA 

CINCINNATTI -- The Musical Fund Society.... It's officers were.....Peyton S Symmes

Residence  1789 -1881  Hamilton, Ohio, USA 

Marriage to Hannah B Close  1819 ABT — Age: 26

Residence  1850 — Age: 57 Broadway Hotel, Cincinnati Ward 3, Hamilton, Ohio 

Residence 1860 — Age: 67  Cincinnati Ward 15, Hamilton, Ohio, United States 

also Servants Sarah Lownds 44 England, Tamer Brown 62 England. OCCUPATION: GENTLEMAN

Death 1861 27 Jul — Age: 68  Mount Auburn, Hamilton, Ohio, USA 

Burial 1861 Cemetery of Spring Grove, Hamilton, Ohio

Source Information

• 1850 United States Federal Census
• 1860 United States Federal Census
• Ancestry Family Trees
• Cincinnati, the Queen City : 1788-1912
• History of Cincinnati, Ohio : with illustrations and biographical sketches / compiled by Henry A. Ford and Kate B. Ford.
• U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907
• Web: Ohio, Find A Grave Index, 1787-2012

Biographical Sketch can be found

Name: Peyton Short Symmes

Birth - Death: 1793-1861

Source Citation:

• Appleton's Cyclopaedia of American Biography. Six volumes. Edited by James Grant Wilson and John Fiske. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1888- 1889. (ApCAB)
• The New-York Historical Society's Dictionary of Artists in America, 1564-1860. By George C. Groce and David H. Wallace. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1957. (NewYHSD)

(7) Judge TIMOTHY SYMMES 1744 – 1797 (my 4^th great grandfather)

Spouses & Children

Abigail Tuthill 1749 – 1776

(8) Celadon Symmes 1770 – 1837 (1794 m Phoebe Fitz Randolph)

                    Children: Daughter Symmes – William Cleves Symmes – Daniel Tuthill Symmes – John Cleves Symmes

(8) Daniel Symmes 1772 – 1827

(8) William Symmes 1774 – 1809

Mercy Harker  1762 – 1795

(8) Capt John Cleves Symmes 1779 – 1829   (my3rd great grand uncle) (see Historical Notes below)  

Spouse & Children

Marianne Lockwood 1785-1864

(9) William Henry Symmes

(9) John Cleves Symmes 1742 – 1814

(9) Louisiana Symmes 1810 – 1853

(9) Americus Vespucius Symmes 1811 – 1878 (my 1^st cousin 4x removed)

(9) Harrison Symmes 1813 – 

                    Frances Scott 1826-1860

(9) Florence Symmes 1841 – 1903

(9) Scott Symmes 1843 – 

(9) Americus Symmes 1846 – 

(9) William Symmes 1848 – 1903

(9) Henry Symmes 1852 – 

(9) Lilly Symmes 1855 – 1856

(9) Ida Symmes 1858 – 

(9) Daughter Symmes 1861 –               

(8) Elizabeth Symmes 1814 – 1821

(8) John Cleves Symmes

(8) Mary Symmes 1785 – 1834

(8) Julianna S Symmes 1791 – 1844

(8) Peyton Short Symmes 1793 – 1861 (my 3^rd great grandfather) (see above)

(8) Timothy Symmes 1795 – 1822

Timeline

Birth 1744 10 Apr Aquebogue, Suffolk, New York 

Marriage to Abigail Tuthill 1765 28 Nov — Age: 21  Long Island City, Queens, New York, USA 

Residence 1775 -1783 — Age: 31  Ohio, USA 

Marriage to Mercy Harker 1778 — Age: 34

Residence 1789 -1881 — Age: 45  Hamilton, Ohio, USA 

Death 1797 20 Feb — Age: 52  North Bend, Hamilton, Ohio 

Occupation Sussex, New Jersey, USA  Judge Common Pleas

SOURCE INFORMATION

• Ancestry Family Trees
• Family Data Collection - Births
• History of Cincinnati, Ohio : with illustrations and biographical sketches / compiled by Henry A. Ford and Kate B. Ford.
• The Official roster of the soldiers of the American Revolution buried in the state of Ohio
• U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

FIND A GRAVE NOTES

Birth: Apr. 10, 1744 Death: Feb. 20, 1797 (QTR MR, NJ Militia, Revolutionary War) (NB: this stone placed in cemetery in 1992 or early 1993 by federal government, Timothy is John Cleves Symmes' brother) Information from: http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/hamilton/cemeteries/congress-green.txt Family links: Parents: Timothy Symmes (1715 - 1756) Mary Cleves Symmes (1746 - 1746) Spouses: Abigail Tuthill Symmes (____ - 1776)* Mercy Harker Symmes (1762 - ____)* Children: John Cleves Symmes (1779 - 1829)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Congress Green Cemetery North Bend Hamilton County Ohio, USA Created by: cfenters Record added: Feb 14, 2009 Find A Grave Memorial# 33841197

The Official roster of the soldiers of the American Revolution buried in the state of Ohio record for an ancestor  SYMMES, TIMOTHY (Hamilton Co.) Quartermaster of Sussex Co. NJ Mil Br 1744 New Jersey. Mar Abigail Tuthill lst wife. D 1797 Cincinnatti OH 1783. Judge Common Pleas in Sussex Co NJ. 1790 Joined his brother John Cleves Symmes in Cincinnatti OH where he died. S.A.R. and Natl No 39298 Vol 140 DAR Line . Fur Info Cincinnatti Chap

From THE HISTORY OF HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO

The pioneer settler at the site of South Bend was Timothy Symmes, the only full brother of Judge Symmes. He was also a prominent citizen in New Jersey, a judge in one of the courts of Sussex county, and followed his brother to the western country soon after the Purchase was settled. He did not live, however, to see more than the beginnings of the mighty development of the Miami tract, but died February 20, 1797, aged fifty-three. He was the father of Captain John Cleves Symmes, the famous author of the theory of a hollow and inhabitable earth, open for several degrees about the poles, who was residing at South Bend when his uncle, the judge, obtained his first appointment in the army; also of Daniel Symmes, who became a distinguished cit-zen of Cincinnati, serving in many public capacities, as is elsewhere detailed in this work; of Celadon Symmes, who spent nearly all his adult life on a farm three miles south of Hamilton, where he gave the name to Symmes' Corners, a hamlet and post office on the Cincinnati turnpike; and of Peyton Short Symmes, the youngest of his Sons, save one, and in some respects the most distinguished of all. He is noticed at some length in our chapter on the Bar of Cincinnati. Mary, the eldest daughter of Mr. Symmes, became wife of Hugh Moore, a prominent Cincinnatian, and died in 1834, the same year her only sister, Julianna, wife of Jeremiah Reeder, departed this life.

Historical Notes:  Capt John Cleves Symmes 1779 – 1829   (my3rd great grand uncle)

HOLLOW AND HABITABLE WITHIN:

SYMMES’S THEORY OF EARTH’S INTERNAL STRUCTURE AND POLAR GEOGRAPHY.

Duane A Griffin

Department of Geography

Bucknell University

Lewisburg, Pennsylvania

Abstract: In 1818, John Cleves Symmes (1780-1829) circulated a flyer announcing his theory of Earth’s structure and polar geography.  Declaring the Earth is “hollow, and habitable within; containing a number of solid concentric spheres, one within the other, and that it is open at the poles 12 or 16 degrees,: Symmes solicited “one hundred brave men” for an expedition north of the 82^nd parallel in search of  “a warm and rich land, stocked with thrifty vegetables and animals if not men.” So began the history of American polar exploration.  Symmes’s supporters attracted general ridicule, but also tapped a vein of cultural patriotism, national pride, and expansionist ambition that won him a group of loyal followers.  Chief among Symmes’s supporters was Jeremiah Reynolds, who played a key role in obtaining congressional funding for the Great American Exploring Expedition of 1838-1842.

From HISTORY OF CINCINNATI, OHIO page 74 (John Cleves Symmes)

He fell into ill health, and became much enfeebled in 1826 by a laborious tour through the eastern cities, Maine and Canada. His chief ailment was dyspepsia, induced by long continued overwork upon his theories and plans. Notwithstanding his now serious illness, in New York city he was thrown into jail by a heartless landlord, for inability to pay a bill of thirty to forty dollars, remaining incarcerated three days, when he was by a friendly Cincinnatian who happened to be in the city, and who helped him to the residence of a relative in New Jersey, where he remained until his health was measurably restored. He managed to reach Cincinnati in February 1829, and was there presently met by his son Americus with a two-horse wagon and a mattress, upon which he was borne to the farm near Hamilton—to which the family had removed in March of the previous year—where he died May 29^th, 1829, aged only forty-eight.